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陈牧:今万里远征,当出其不意,寡人畏契丹及沙陀为吾后患,是以吾犹豫未决,先生何以教我?萧凡:臣以为,彼三方智勇无及大王者也,大王虽远出,彼必不敢动,且彼未谓大王,便能悬军万里取辽东也。轻军往返,不出二旬,藉使彼虽有心,比其谋议出师,吾已还矣。且沙陀、石氏,虽名为盟友,实为仇敌。若修笺于沙陀,送质请和,沙陀必喜我之和,而快石氏之亡,终不救俊而袭我也。用兵贵神速,勿后时也。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。chenmu:Nowwewilllaunchanexpedition,Therefore,weneedtoactasquicklyaslightning,ButIamafraidthattheKhitanandShatowillsneakuponourrear,Ihesitatetodoso,Sirtaughtmewhattodo?xiaofan:Ithink,Theirwisdomisnotcomparabletoyours,Whenyoulaunchanexpedition,Theydon'tbelieveyoudaretodoit,Therefore,theywilldefinitelynotsneakuponus,Eveniftheyhavethisplan,Whentheymakeadecision,Twomonthslater,wehadretreated,ShatuoandShiarealliesthough,However,thereisadeephatredbetweenthem,IfwearealliedwithShatuo,Itwilldefinitelyagreeandgloat,EvenifShiJundied,itwouldnotcometotherescue,Therefore,youhavetostrikequickly。chenmu:Sirisright,Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧:今敌军已溃,寡人欲杀石氏麾下将佐,筑京观以威远方,可乎?先生以为如何?萧凡:臣以为不可,石氏暴虐,大王讨而诛之,乃吊民伐罪也,岂可不修仁义专事威刑乎?石氏将佐有忠良者,大王当礼而用之,以慰士心,分遣流民,使各还乡里,复其旧业,置守宰整军备,以御契丹,然后还师以告天下。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。chenmu:Today,theenemyarmyhasbeendefeatedbyus,Iwanttokilltheirgeneralstodetertheenemy,Sir,whatdoyouthink?xiaofan:Ithink,Idonotapproveofyoudoingthis,ShiJunimplementedaharshpolicy,Youattackedhimtosavethepeople,Youshoulddowhatisbenevolentandrighteous,notpunishmentandforce,Therearealsoloyalistshere,Youshouldappointthemaccordingtohighstandards,inordertoappeasethepeople,Then,youhelppeoplereturnhome,Andhelpthemgetbackintoproduction,Finally,youhavetosetupofficialsandtroopshere,inordertodefendagainsttheKhitan,Afterthat,youcandeclaretheworld。chenmu:Sirisright,Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧:寡人闻,古之听狱,求所以生之也,何也?先生教我。萧凡:臣以为,凡理狱之情,必本所犯之事以为主,不严讯,不旁求,不贵多端,以见聪明,故律正其举劾之法,参伍其辞,所以求实也,非所以饰实也,但当参伍明听之耳,不当使狱吏饰理成辞于手,以杀吾无辜赤子也。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。chenmu:Iheard,Inancienttimes,courtsheardcases,Theprincipleistotrynottoimposethedeathpenalty,Sirtaughtmewhy?xiaofan:Ithink,Thecourthearsthecase,Itisimportanttobaseonthefactsofthecrime,Therewillbenoharshinterrogation,Nottoomanypeopleinvolved,Thecourtshaveheardcasesonseveraloccasions,Itistomakethecasetrueandfair,Inaddition,arrangeforpeopletoobservethehearingtopreventjudgesfrombendingthelawforpersonalgain,Onlyinthiswaycanthepeoplebeprotectedasmuchaspossible。chenmu:Sirisright,Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧:今辽东之法深刻,民多不便,寡人甚伤之,吾欲革之,先生何以教我?萧凡:臣以为,夫赏宜从重,罚宜从轻,君居其厚,百王之通制也。刑之轻重,恩之厚薄,见思与见疾,其可同日言哉!且法,国之权衡也,时之准绳也。权衡所以定轻重,准绳所以正曲直,今作法贵其宽平,罪人欲其严酷,喜怒肆志,高下在心,是则舍准绳以正曲直,弃权衡而定轻重者也,石氏知其然而不知其所以然,不亡何待?陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人受教矣。chenmu:Today,thelawsinLiaodongareharsh,Thepeopleareveryuncomfortable,Iamveryconcernedaboutthis,Iwanttochangethat,Sirtaughtmewhattodo?xiaofan:Ithink,Therewardshouldbeheavier,Thepunishmentshouldbelighter,Thisshowsthatkingsaremerciful,Thiswasalsoaprinciplefollowedbysuccessivekings,Rewardsandpunishmentshavedifferentmeanings,Thelawisthefoundationofthestate,Atthesametime,thelawisthebellwetherofthetimes,Lawstandsforfairnessandjustice,However,thisisnotthecasewiththelawinLiaodong,WhenShiJunwasinpower,Thelawstherearechaoticandharsh,Therefore,hequicklywenttohisdemise。chenmu:Sirisright,Iacceptyourteachings。陈牧:寡人闻,国家之存亡祸福,信有天命,非唯人也,何也?先生教我。萧凡:臣以为,存亡祸福,皆在己而已,天灾地妖,弗能加也。昔者殷王帝辛之世,有雀生大鸟于城隅焉,帝辛介雀之德,不修国政,殷国以亡,此即以己逆天时,得福反为祸者也,愿大王鉴之。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。chenmu:Iheard,Theriseandfallofacountryisamatteroffate,It'snotjustthehumanfactor,Sirtaughtmewhy?xiaofan:Ithink,Theriseandfallofnationsisprimarilyduetohumancauses,Naturaldisastersdonotdetermineitsdemise,WhenDiXinwasinpower,Thephoenixappearedinthecapital,However,hedidnotimprovethepoliticsofthecountry,Intheend,thecountrywenttoextinction,HewentagainstthewillofGod,Heturnedgoodthingsintobadthings,Ihopeyoulearnfromit。chenmu:Sirisright,Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。陈牧:今闻坊间流言,寡人甚怒,吾欲责之,先生以为如何?萧凡:臣以为,今有小事,不欲人闻,则暴作威怒,以弭谤议。若所为是也,闻于外其何伤?若所以非也,虽掩之何益?为之而欲人不知,言之而欲人不闻,此犹捕雀而掩目,盗钟而掩耳者,只以取诮,将何益乎?臣窃以为不妥。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人知过矣。chenmu:Nowadays,therearesomerumorsinsociety,Iwasveryangryaboutthat,Sir,whatdoyouthink?xiaofan:Ithink,Youturnedouttobesoangryforsometrifles,Moreover,youwanttocoverupthetruthinordernottoletothersknow,Ifyoudoitright,it'sokayforotherstotalkaboutit,Ifyoudosomethingwrong,Youwillnotbeabletohidethefacts,Youdidsomething,Butyoudon'twantittobeknown,Yousaidsomething,Butyoudon'twantittobeheard,Thisisdeceivingyourself,Thatdoesn'tmakesense,Itisnotappropriateforyoutodoso。chenmu:Sirisright,Iwaswrong。陈牧:今天降异象,寡人甚忧之,先生何以教我?萧凡:臣以为,殷太戊之时,道缺法邪,以致夭孽,桑榖生朝,七日大拱。太戊恐骇,侧身修行。三年之后,远方慕义,重译至者十有六国。此即以己逆天时,得祸转为福者也。故天灾地妖,所以儆人主也;寤梦征怪,所以儆人臣也,灾妖不胜善政,梦怪不胜善行。能知此,至治之极也,明王达此也。陈牧:先生之言是也,寡人谨受教。chenmu:Nowadays,strangenaturalphenomenahaveemerged,Iamveryconcernedaboutthis,Sirtaughtmewhattodo?xiaofan:Ithink,Thesamephenomenonoccurredinancienttimes,Itisbecauseofthelackoffairnessandjustice,Thegeniuswarnsthekinginthisway,KingYinwasterrifiedofthis,So,hedecidedtocorrecthismistake,Threeyearslater,peoplefromafaralsoadmiredhim,Hisworkshavebeentranslatedinmanycountries,Heturnedbadthingsintogoodthingsthroughhisownefforts,Strangenaturalphenomenaweremeanttowarntheking,Thestrangedreamwasmeanttowarntheminister,Justworkhardtocorrectyourmistakesandimproveyourpolicies,Thenthisphenomenoncanbeeliminated。chenmu:Sirisright,Irespectfullyacceptyourteachings。

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